Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/01/2000 01:40 PM Senate HES

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        SB 224-CONFIDENTIALITY OF CINA HEARINGS & RECORD                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. JAN RUTHERDALE, Assistant Attorney General, informed committee                                                              
members that she practices extensively in the Child in Need of Aid                                                              
(CINA) area and was the staff attorney for the confidentiality task                                                             
force that was created a few years ago.  She prepared a sectional                                                               
analysis to explain the various sections.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 224 was the result of the creation of a task force appointed by                                                              
the Governor after some high publicity cases highlighted problems                                                               
with the CINA system.  The task force was asked to review the                                                                   
confidentiality provisions of that system and whether the benefits                                                              
of those provisions in protecting privacy also served to shield the                                                             
public from information about the CINA system.  The task force made                                                             
several recommendations in a report distributed to the committee.                                                               
SB 224 is a compilation of those recommendations.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SB 224 addresses three main areas.  First, it would open up the                                                                 
CINA court hearings.  Those hearings are now presumed closed; SB
224 reverses that presumption so that they would be considered open                                                             
except in specified circumstances.  The second change affects                                                                   
court records which are now presumed closed.  SB 224 would open                                                                 
certain records to the public.  The third change pertains to                                                                    
Division of Family and Youth Services' (DFYS) records.  Federal law                                                             
requires that agency records be kept confidential, however the task                                                             
force found three areas that can be opened, and in fact, agency                                                                 
records in cases in which a child fatality or near fatality                                                                     
occurred must be open.  The second area pertains to situations when                                                             
a parent essentially waives the right to confidentiality by                                                                     
publicly disclosing information about the case.  DFYS would be able                                                             
to open agency records to respond to the disclosure.  The third                                                                 
area pertains to situation when a person is charged with a child                                                                
abuse crime, and allows DFYS to present information they have about                                                             
that report.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 618                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked if any of the provisions in SB 224 will                                                                     
threaten the Department of Health and Social Services with federal                                                              
reprisals.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERDALE replied that is the task force's hope.  She tried to                                                             
draft the legislation very carefully but the question is open right                                                             
now.  From a strict reading of the federal laws, it appears that                                                                
nothing having to do with children's cases can be open at all.  On                                                              
the other hand, Oregon has a constitutional provision that requires                                                             
all hearings to be open to the public.  That provision has been in                                                              
effect for 20 to 30 years and Oregon has continued to receive full                                                              
federal funding.  The State of Minnesota has a pilot project                                                                    
underway which opened up hearings and court records and no federal                                                              
reprisals have occurred.  With respect to agencies, the provisions                                                              
in SB 224 were modelled after a Washington State law that has been                                                              
in effect for two years.  SB 224 brings the provisions together                                                                 
from those three jurisdictions.  It is unknown whether SB 224 will                                                              
be the "straw that broke the camel's back."  She noted the federal                                                              
government is in the process of devising regulations to clarify                                                                 
what information can be shared with the public but when those                                                                   
regulations will be finalized is unknown.  She pointed out that is                                                              
one reason SB 224 provides for a delayed effective date of April,                                                               
2001.  If the federal government rules adversely toward Alaska's                                                                
law, the delayed effective date will allow the legislation to be                                                                
changed if necessary before it is implementd.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 785                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PETE KELLY asked in what circumstances children's names                                                                 
would be a matter of open record.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERDALE said that no children's names or identifying                                                                     
information can be made public under SB 224.  For example, court                                                                
records currently contain the child's name in the caption.  The                                                                 
name would have to be removed and the child referred to as "the                                                                 
child" or by initials or some other non-identifying way.  Agencies                                                              
would probably refer to the initials of the child.  She noted, as                                                               
a practical matter, if a parent has already gone to the press, it                                                               
may be that the child's name was disclosed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PETE KELLY asked if the parents are identified.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERDALE said they can be.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PETE KELLY questioned whether identification of the parents                                                             
will effectively disclose who the child is.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERDALE agreed it would easy for a diligent person to find                                                               
out the child's name, but the members from the media who were on                                                                
the task force assured the task force they had no interest in using                                                             
the names of the children.  The bill contains a restriction that                                                                
orders the media not to use the child's name so there could be                                                                  
contempt of court repercussions.  She added that any member of the                                                              
public may not follow that code of honor, but it was the task                                                                   
force's way of trying to be true to the federal restrictions while                                                              
at the same time having access to the public.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PETE KELLY asked if the public will be aware of the story                                                               
but will not know the names of the children.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERDALE explained the statute refers to the child's name but                                                             
it may be that the court will say there is to be no discussion of                                                               
the parent's names, or perhaps people in the courtroom will                                                                     
naturally do that.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR PETE KELLY asked if the court is already doing that by                                                                  
blacking out the names of children and whether that occurs only in                                                              
criminal cases.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERDALE said it is not possible for any member of the                                                                    
public, even a legislator, to go the court system and request a                                                                 
child's file.  She thought it must have been a criminal case if the                                                             
child's name was blacked out.  Ms. Rutherdale added that initials                                                               
are usually used to identify a child in criminal cases.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1021                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked how far the protection goes for a child from a                                                              
relatively small village.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERDALE replied "What the task force contemplated is the                                                                 
smaller the town, the less information, really, you can give                                                                    
because - and it may be impossible.  For example, if you say the                                                                
parent of the child of so and so, everybody in the village knows                                                                
what child - or the daughter, and they only have two children.  In                                                              
a big town like Anchorage, for example, that might not reveal the                                                               
child's name as easily - although members of the task force felt                                                                
that when you have such a small town, they probably know everything                                                             
anyway.  So, it's a constant weighing of, are we protecting the                                                                 
privacy interests versus the public's interest in knowing."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said when a child has an issue and it gets to this                                                               
point, the bigger communities assign children's advocates to the                                                                
children.  He asked what they think of SB 224.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERDALE replied that every volunteer child advocate is                                                                   
attached to a guardian ad litem and the guardian ad litems in                                                                   
Anchorage are in favor of SB 224.  She noted that Brant McGee with                                                              
the Office of Public Advocacy was a member of the task force.  She                                                              
said the task force heard from a lot of groups around the country.                                                              
One child advocacy group who took the position that shedding more                                                               
light on the system, and holding all of the social workers and                                                                  
players more accountable, might embarass an individual child but                                                                
will be better for all.  Another child advocate pointed out that                                                                
the children are harmed by the fact that their parents hurt them                                                                
but they assume that everyone knows anyway.  She noted that                                                                     
disclosure may not be an issue for a child at age eight, but it                                                                 
could be if the child is stigmatized later.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1243                                                                                                                     

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